Talk:Castlevania: Lords of Shadow

Well, it's not the Alucard Castlevania game we were waiting for, but it's still good nontheless. Am I right? Parivir 23:04, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Yeah. I hope Death is in the game, it won't be like Castlevania to leave him out. Shadowmaster 23:15, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

It's a REBOOT
The game is going to be a reboot of the series, which means it will have no connection to the established time line. Debating over whether Dracula or the Belmonts will appear or not is worthless.

That doesn't mean to say that the canon won't continue on handhelds and the like.

~ Honestly, it should be in the timeline. At the end of the Gamescom trailer, Dracula pronounces, "I will rid this world of Belmont for all eternity", which kind of implies that it may be placed somewhere into the timeline. It also kind of indicates that Gabriel may be a Belmont. But that's unassured right now. ~ Parivir 23:04, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, David Cox made it very clear when he said "this is not a sequel, this is not a prequel", so despite my hopes, I know that this will not have anything to do with the current games. That doesn't mean somewhere down the line some other team will try to tie their game to this one and maybe one of the other games, but for now its totally separate.

Just because no other games are canon to this game's timeline doesn't mean that certain events that happenned in the original timeline didn't happen in this game's timeline though. I consider this game to be a reboot of the series starting off where the original Castlevania game started out with. In the original Castlevania, they made it very clear that Simon was not the first Belmont and that he and his family had been battling Dracula for ages. This game seems to start with the same premise, that there is this family called Belmonts and that they have been using this whip to battle Dracula for a while now, or at least once before. I think that Gabriel is a substitute for Simon in this game, Simon himself probably never existed in this timeline. They could have called him Simon, but he's has so many makeovers it was better to use a new name. --Castlevania: Symphony of the Night|Reinhart77]] 23:47, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

The 4th Different Approach
Much as the 1st approach of Castlevania was changed to a Metroid type of gameplay (with some RPG elements included) from Castlevania: Symphony of the night onwards and then Castlevania: Lament of Innocence introduced a Devil May Cry type gameplay (which retained the RPG elements of the 2nd approach) and now Castlevania: Lords of Shadow seems to be in the making with a God of War type gameplay (if the trailer is any indication). --Vae Infectus 17:06, November 25, 2009 (UTC)

E3 2010 - June 14-17
Hey, E3 is pretty near now and LoS has been confirmed as part of the show, as well as Encore of the Night. Be ready for some new trailers (I hope!) Nothing about Harmony of Despair, however. -Chernabogue 11:35, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

New Pictures
Please somebody upload the images from this page:

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And a question

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this guy ... "Cornell? in the trailer never mention the presence of Cornell. I think his real name is Abbot Dorin, if is mentioned in the trailer (minute 3:00)

E3 NEW TRAILER
Some things I found interesting in the new trailer : (may be some speculations)

- The name "Abbot Dorin" remembers me of Vincent Dorin, the monk/seller from Portrait of Ruin. Same family?
 * Names and characters identity

- The dark swordsman in armor that Gabriel fights has no head : may it be Dullahan?

- The man in the dark with the sharp nails and the "demonic belt" : Dracula?

- Every actor has the name of the character he/she voices, but nothing about Jason Isaacs : does he voice Dracula?

- A picture of a "momified" skeleton with a scythe-like weapon is shown : Death? It doesn't look like him however. - No more information about Claudia, Pan, the Lady of the Forest.

- Laura says "Mother (...)" to Gabriel while speaking of Carmilla. Is Carmilla the mother of Laura? In other games, Laura is described as "Carmilla's follower".
 * Carmilla and Laura

- Zobek speaks about Carmilla and the power of love, saying "she will cry bloody treas". Bloody Tears is actually Carmilla's theme in Judgment. Quite interesting.

- Lot of speculation about Carmilla before this new trailer, now she's announced as a enemy : does she have something to do with the Mask? Because in a lot (every?) of Cv games, she has a mask/skull with her.

- Carmilla says that resurrection is impossible, possibly referring to Gabriel's will to get Marie back.

- The Combat Cross seems to have a big spike end at its bottom and it is seen that Gabriel uses it to stab a vampire (Carmilla transformed?) into his/her heart.
 * Other things

- We can see Gabriel with angel wings : referring to the war between Heaven and Earth?

- Marie is seen in a lot of cutscenes in the trailer and during a titan fight with Gabriel : did she died before OR during LoS?

- The big titan in the end of the trailer has a head that looks like a lot to the Mask.

- Cornell looks older than in Cv64/Judgment : maybe LoS is set after these games?

- Release date : Fall 2010. (Yeah!) -Chernabogue 14:46, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Could you please tell where you can find it? I've been looking for an hour or so. Shadowmaster 16:07, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Yep, I found it here : http://www.xbox360-gamer.net/download-video-xbox-360-castlevania---lords-of-shadow_7378.html -Chernabogue 16:57, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

1. Well, it's a reboot, so it's set before LoD (Legacy of Darkness) and Judgement. Cornell does look really old, though. 2. Marie died before the game, I think, she is just a guide to Gabriel, because she is forced to stay on Earth. Also, Gabriel's quest is to find the mask to revive her. 3. Carmilla's attack in almost all of the games she has been in is also bloody tears. 4. Abbot Dorin is probably some kind of helper to Gabriel, possibly even a merchant. 5. The titan is probably a coincidence, but I hope the final boss is some kind of manifestation of the mask. 6. Claudia will be in the game, her name was listed and the person who voices her.

Shadowmaster 14:49, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Wait, is that character in the scene with the earth titan Marie or Claudia? Because Claudia has blonde hair, and so does that character in the scene with the earth titan. Shadowmaster 16:50, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

It's Claudia. Marie has brown/black hair, while Claudia has blonde hair. -Chernabogue 13:52, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

New Characters
Cornell's name and the voice actor that plays him is flashed by, although not at a location in the trailer that actually physically shows Cornell. If you look closely, you will see that the part of Cornell's uniform that goes around his waist is the same as his Legacy of Darkness incarnation. I found out that this long bearded fellow was Cornell on the Castlevania Dungeon board from someone who had some kind of a press guide, but the clothes confirmed it for me. Also, since Lords of Shadow does not take place in the same "universe" as Legacy of Darkness, his age or what year the game takes place in is irrelevant as the two games have no connection other than borrowed elements. We know the year that the game takes place in, around 1050.

As for Carmilla and Laura, I'm guessing that Laura is calling Carmilla "Mother" because Carmilla is the one who turned Laura into a vampire, not gave birth to her.--Reinhart77 14:22, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

--Reinhart77 14:22, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, yes, it may be that why she calls her "Mother". Good point ;) ! I noticed that the song "Vampire Killer" can be heard at the very end of the trailer. And as for the bad guy, who must be Dracula, I think it's him because he's the only one who says "Die, Belmont !" while other characters call Gabriel by his name. -Chernabogue 14:46, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Well, this is a whole new storyline, a reboot. They can change many things. Maybe Carmilla really is Laura's mother (although I'd prefer your reason, Reinhart77). I guess we'll find out. Shadowmaster 14:34, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

I doubt Dracula will be in. I think the developers wants a fresh start, without all the sillyness in the previous games. Block

I think Dracula is the most important part in a Castlevania game. I doubt he wouldn't be in this game, but this is still speculation. -Chernabogue 04:54, August 5, 2010 (UTC)

I have a gut feeling it may be Dracula. But, since it is a reboot, and some creators like to dink around with the storyline of long running games. I wouldn't be surprised if they made Alucard the main baddie. as horrible sounding that idea is. =/ --Angeloni87

The real Lords of Shadow
So, are Carmilla, Necromancer/Death and Cornell the big bosses? -Chernabogue 08:34, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

I corrected it. Japanese magazine Famitsu written Cornell is one person of three Lords of Shadow. other two person are unknown.--Kiyuhito 10:56, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

OK, thanks for the info. It may be Carmilla and Dracula. We'll know it soon! -Chernabogue 16:57, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

Canon or not?
SPOILERS (in case of) Alright, now we now the ending and everything about the plot. So, if the next battle is the Demon Castle War (1999) (Demon = Satan in fact), is this game canon finally? And will Julius Belmont show up then? -Chernabogue 07:55, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

NO. --Kiyuhito 08:58, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

Oh... OK then. Would be cool though. -Chernabogue 17:01, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

Major unmarked spoiler, thanks!
Whoever wrote the caption for Dracula's picture containing the massive unmarked spoiler...thanks!

Spoiler Proof Page
Spoiler proof this page! The entire story is ruined for me now with those lords of shadow picture captions and dracula's picture caption. All I was looking for were tips about some of the items and relics, and now I know how the story plays out. Thanks a lot to the retard that posted those captions. F'in moron!

Response
Could someone who knows about the game already take steps needed to spoiler proof the page. I'm personally avoiding all pages related to Lords of Shadow so that it doesn't spoil it for myself. I'd recommend anyone else to do the same who wants to avoid spoilers.--Reinhart77 14:47, October 7, 2010 (UTC)

Also, when creating new pages related to LoS, please add spoiler-proof details in the "Summary" field. Some plot points were spoiled for me because the initial content of a new page was visible on the "Recent changes" page of the wiki.--Reinhart77 14:52, October 7, 2010 (UTC)

I have the game guide, so I can spoiler-proof the page. Shadowmaster 23:45, October 7, 2010 (UTC)

Spoiler Warning !! Spoiler Discussion
"Lord of the Dead" is Death?--Kiyuhito 07:16, October 9, 2010 (UTC)

Should divide "Dracula" and "Dracul(Gabriel)" ?--Kiyuhito 09:42, October 9, 2010 (UTC)

Mmh, good question. Yes, you should and put something like "For Lords of Shadow's Dracula, see Dracul" on the Dracula page. -Chernabogue 10:43, October 9, 2010 (UTC)