Board Thread:Lords of Shadow 2/@comment-9249716-20130609232735/@comment-9249716-20140728222436

216.238.237.189 wrote: 86.21.101.169 wrote: 99.115.61.255 wrote: He was defending his beliefs in a logical way while being offensively impolite and letting his theological predispositions influence his judgment in a videogame featuring a fictional universe in which many things do not stay true to their mythical origins. If the Chupacabra is not a race of blood-sucking monsters, but rather an immortal trickster with immense magical power, or if Pan is not a Greek God but a follower of the One God, or if Agreus is not a spawn of Pan but rather his brother, is it possible that God in LoS is different from his religious portrayals? I believe the answer should be "yes".

From an objective point of view -not a religious one, the guy claiming God is the antagonist was arguing his point in a purely analytical way, without being actively offensive (unless you consider saying anything bad about clearly fictional God in a clearly fictional universe with barely any relation to our own, in which God may or may not exist depending on your faith, offensive). The guy above, however, used inflamatory phrases such as "Did you read my above post?", "Obviously you never played the games if you said this", or sarcastic ones like "Oh and Satan was not an Old God." He also made groundless assumptions, claiming that the other guy was an aetheist who enjoys seeing God being labeled the bad guy. Nobody likes be incorrectly labeled, especially if such labeling was based purely on one's own mental set. He can be a Christian, a Buddhist, or he can worship the Flying Spaghetti Monster - it's his own business. If he's being rude, his belief should not be used as an excuse. I see nothing rude in sarcastic statements and "did you read my above post" was hardly an inflamatory comment. He was annoyed at someone suggesting God should be the big bad in LoS2 because of their real life atheistic beliefs about the Judeo-Christian god.

He answered all your points in any case and now you're using an ad hominem attack against him.

Also it's established that "the god of the LoS" universe is the Christian God. This is explictly stated with a direct reference to Christianity and the power of Christ in the first game. It makes sense he'd have all the attributes associated with the Judeo-Christian god as The Bible states and nothing in the LoS mythos suggests its universe' version of God is any different. The only difference I see is that God appears to be a deistic type of god in LoS as he lets things be which is more in line with my view on God IRL.

A god who doesn't interact can hardly be called "flawed" for not interacting. He wouldn't be evil. At best you could label him as neutral but really, that would only be true if he was indifferent to evil and good. No what may have been inflamatory of said person's comments was labeling him derogatorily as a group this person has a negative disposition to. " You sound like one of those atheists who wants God being the bad guy in everything, because of your own personal petty hate for Him." The all caps from this person's post about said God are good hints that they get really annoyed at anyone saying what said God is or is not that is not positve even though the others are referring to the One God in LOS universe, so in all we should try to seperate the two and try not react as strong to what may or may not happen to a fictitious being in a video game.

Now as for saying Dracul fighting God is never gonna happen because its too controversial/ or it breaks lore or causes loop holes. Mercury Steam did set out to go make a serious, dark, and gritty game, while at the same time go through and keep in their controversial parts, so I wouldn't put it past them, as for being bad for business in the Western audience, I would hope most gamers can see a game for just being a game a not take it to seriously, since its not real its a fantasy video game. As for loop holes and what not it doesn't break anything thats impossible because clearly Heaven's Power and the one running it can be stopped or seperated from intervening on Earth like in the first LOS game, and as for the deity being omniscient is tad bit more lacking in that department because not even Fate knew he was gonna get hit in the face by Trevor's combat cross and lose the ability to speak. and maybe just maybe God wants Dracul to beat him to end his eternal life that He may crave for. In regards to fate being omniscient, I wouldn't go so far as to say it is, because omniscient menas all powerful. And as far Heaven being cut off from earth, it's a question of God letting it happen, not that he couldn't stop it. I do agree with the possibility of God wanting to Gabriel to end his eternal life at the end of the story (which we won't see unless we decide to sue our imaginations). As for God's depiction in the LOS universe, I also agree that fictional interpretations such as this one should not be used to levy contempt to Christianity and what not.