Talk:Castlevania Timeline/Archive 2

About a certain source.
Is there a transcript of the interview where IGA says "I make a distinction between gaiden and story from another world"? --Nagumo baby (talk) 18:02, August 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * Interviewer: お答えづらい質問かと思いますが、ゲームボーイ版の3作目『漆黒たる前奏曲』は当時のKCE名古屋のスタッフによるパラレルワールド、という解釈で良いのでしょうか?


 * IGA: ほかの『黙示録』とか、『サークル オブ ザ ムーン』とかは、製作者の意図として、「外伝」として扱っていますが、この作品だけは、どうやってもはまらないのでそのような解釈で良いと思います.


 * GAME SIDE Vol.16 (February 2009)--Kiyuhito (talk) 01:40, August 28, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you, I will use this as a source. --Nagumo baby (talk) 07:55, August 28, 2012 (UTC)

NTT Pub LoI Guide Family Tree
I think that this is doubtful. But, I do not have source which denies this.--Kiyuhito (talk) 12:36, October 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * You don't believe Quincy Morris is Ralph's descendant? --Nagumo baby (talk) 15:19, October 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes, Other guidebook doesn't have the same family tree. And, Latest version family tree doesn't have the same branch as it. When NTT Pub LoI is true, why doesn't the latest version have it?--Kiyuhito (talk) 00:28, October 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * The latest version of the family tree does have a line that spawns from Ralph's name, implying an alternate branch of Belmonts came into existence, possibly the Morris family. But that's just speculation. --Nagumo baby (talk) 09:46, October 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * I thought that Ralph's line meant CoD appearances.--Kiyuhito (talk) 10:21, October 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * Perhaps, but I think it's unlikely. --Nagumo baby (talk) 13:55, October 22, 2012 (UTC)

Order of Ecclesia
Source from Japanese video game magazine "Gēmaga issue 12, 2008".

--Kiyuhito (talk) 10:21, October 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * プロデューサーのIGA氏に聞く
 * 本作の時代背景は……?
 * 「明確な時期は決めてないですが、リヒター・ベルモンドが鞭を手放し、ベルモンドの分家のモリス家が台頭するまでの間と考えています. ジョニーの父、キンシー・モリスが登場する小説『吸血鬼ドラキュラ』(1897年)までの時期ですね」
 * なお、ジョニーはMD「バンパイアキラー」の主人公だ.

Igarashi explains that OoE exists somewhere in after SOTN to 1897 (Dracula (novel)).--Kiyuhito (talk) 10:34, October 22, 2012 (UTC)

And, Igarashi has said that Johnny's father Quincy Morris appears in Bram Stoker's Dracula novel. This may mean that Bram Stoker's Dracula novel exists in Igarashi's timeline.--Kiyuhito (talk) 04:52, October 23, 2012 (UTC)

Despite what IGA said, I think it's doubtful. I've read Bram Stoker's Dracula and there are a lot of conflicts with the Castlevania series. The actual story takes place in 1892/1893 (1897 is the publishing date of the novel), Dracula's origin is different, Quincy Morris was not married, he knows nothing about vampires or Dracula at the beginning of the novel, and he kills Dracula with a knife.

Because of the conflicts, I'm hesitant to treat Bram Stoker's Dracula as canon. The story also doesn't really fit well in Castlevania's world.

Is it perhaps possible that IGA just tried to make clear Quincy Morris was a character who first appeared in Bram Stoker's Dracula? --Nagumo baby (talk) 07:51, October 23, 2012 (UTC)

I think that this idea is appropriate and safe. though I cannot declare.--Kiyuhito (talk) 09:16, October 23, 2012 (UTC)

Kid Dracula Timeline
What is "Mr Reaper"? According to Japanese manual page 6 and 14, He is 死神 shinigami, Death/Grim Reaper.--Kiyuhito (talk) 12:36, October 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * I confused shinigami-san with shinigami. I translated shinigami-san as Mr Reaper. --Nagumo baby (talk) 15:17, October 21, 2012 (UTC)

Timeline that has evidence and other such things in it
hey I know of this video that has a bunch of evidence and research into the timeline on it and whatever and so it needs to be seen and such since no one has posted this video on here before. please watch all of it and consider the evidence that has been provided and such.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBBVRHCAEjY

again please watch all of it and consider all evidence in the video. Lordofninjas1 (talk) 04:09, December 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * What exactly are you refering to? I think all the information from that video is already (and more accurately) covered in the article. --Nagumo baby (talk) 16:04, December 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * not really no. if you notice the video has a different Timeline than the one proposed on the page (trust me I went through both multiple times to confirm this) this gives evidence and proof to why the video in the timeline is more accurate than what you currently have. Lordofninjas1 (talk) 18:49, December 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * From what I can tell the differences are that Circle of the Moon, Legacy of Darkness, and Castlevania 64 are included in the video timeline but not in this article, right? Well, those games should be considered an alternate continuity and there is source listed in the article that confirms this. --Nagumo baby (talk) 19:51, December 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * are those reliable sources?Lordofninjas1 (talk) 04:23, December 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * Nagumo baby talked with Koji Igarashi by Facebook.--Kiyuhito (talk) 04:41, December 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes, I asked IGA some questions on Facebook. He is the producer of the Castlevania series and he also created the timeline. I directly asked him if Circle of the Moon, Legacy of Darkness, and Castlevania 64 were part of his continuity and he said they were part of an alternate continuity. There was also already evidence that this was the case before I asked him. --Nagumo baby (talk) 12:20, December 19, 2012 (UTC)

Gaiden and alternate universe
Although I put this information in the article, I think we should remove the information that IGA classifies Dark Night Prelude and Mokushiroku/Circle of the Moon differently. I think "alternate universe" and "gaiden" are considered by IGA to be the same thing. --Nagumo baby (talk) 11:56, December 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * When there is the Judgment2, probably Reinhardt will be able to appear. Probably Sonia will not be able to appear. This difference means it. Anyway, many people will not care about this difference.--Kiyuhito (talk) 08:55, December 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * I think that makes sense. I will alter the article accordingly. --Nagumo baby (talk) 16:18, December 22, 2012 (UTC)

Gamepro CV64 interview
From Gamepro January 1998:

Q: How much does this game follow the previous games in the series?

Takeo Yakushiji: Timelinewise, it takes place about the same time as Richter's story in Dracula X for the SNES and Symphony of the Night for PSX, around 1792. [...] 

Interesting, Castlevania 64 was originally intented to be a side story to Dracula X? --Nagumo baby (talk) 09:20, December 28, 2012 (UTC)

From EGM (1998): According to the director it takes places around the same time as Vampire Killer for Genesis. That's weird. --Nagumo baby (talk) 09:47, December 28, 2012 (UTC)

Probably, there is some confusion, since it is the interview in early stages of development.--Kiyuhito (talk) 10:14, December 28, 2012 (UTC)

Timeline together
If the topic is useless can erase

I know that some games were removed from the official chronology of the series and became non-canonical, but this list is just to show the order total timeline to join all the games in the franchise (I will include Judgement and year of birth of the characters, but not Lords Shadows and some of dates can not be certain as, for example, Carmila and Golem in Castlevania Judgment)

Pre means some events that occurred before the stories of games like Maxim Kischine search the relics of Dracula before juste Belmont and Richter Belmont disappear.

1046: Born Rinaldo Gandolfi

1062: Born Mathias Cronqvist

1072: Born Leon Belmont

1076: Born Sara Trantoul

1088-1093: Pre Castlevania Lament of Innocence

1094: Castlevania Lament of Innocence

Sometime in the 14th or 15th century: born Lisa's second wife and his son Alucard Dracula

1433: Born Sonia Belmont

Before 1450: Castlevania Judgment (Sypha Belnades)

1450: Castlevania Legends

1453: Born Isaac Laforeze

1455: Birth of Hector

1456: Born Trevor Belmont

1459: Born Julia Laforeze

1476: Castlevania III Dracula's Curse

1477: Castlevania Judgement (Grant Danasty)

1479: Castlevania Judgement (Trevor Belmont)

1479: Castlevania Curse of Darkness

1576: Castlevania Adventure

1576: Born Soleiyu Belmont

1591: Castlevania Belmont's Revenge

1667: Birth of Simon Belmont

Late 17th century: Castlevania Order of Shadows

1691: Castlevania

1692: Castlevania Judgment (Simon Belmont)

1698: Castlevania II Simon's Quest

1730: born Juste Belmont, Maxim Kischine and Lydie Elranger

1746: Pre Castlevania Harmony of Dissonance

1748: Castlevania Harmony of Dissonance

1773: born Richter Belmont and Tera

1775: born Annette and Iris

1780: Born Maria Renard

1792: Castlevania Rondo of Blood

1795: Castlevania Judgment (Maria Renard)

1796: Pre Castlevania Symphony of the Night

1797: Castlevania Symphony of the Night

1798: Castlevania Nocturne of Recollection

1800: Castlevania Order of Ecclesia

1800: Castlevania Judgment (Shanoa)

1802: Born Charlie Vincent

1820: Pre Castlevania Circle of the Moon

1820: Castlevania Judgment (Carmila and Golem)

1821: Born Cornell

1824: Born Ortega

1827: Born Reinhardt Scnheider

1830: Castlevania Circle of the Moon

1830: Birth of Ada

1832: Rosa born

1834: Birth of Henry Oldrey

1840: Born Carrie Fernandez

1844: Castlevania Judgment (Cornell and Death)

1844: Castlevania Legacy of Darkness

1844: Born Malus

1852: Castlevania 64

May 3, 1892: Born Eric Lecard

December 12, 1895: Birth of John Morris

1897: Bram Stoker's Dracula

1907: Castlevania Judgment (Alucard and Eric Lecard)

1912: Born Vincent Dorin

1917: Castlevania Bloodlines

1923: born Stella and Loreta Lecard

1926: Born Jonathan Morris

1928: Born Charlotte Aulin

1942: Pre Castlevania Portrait of Ruin

1944: Castlevania Portrait of Ruin

1980: Born Julius Belmont

Before 1999: Castlevania Judgment (Dracula)

1999: Castlevania the Demon Castle Wars

1999: born Graham Jones, Dimitri Blinov and Dario Bossi

2001: Born Hammer

2010: Born Celia Fortner

2011: Born Yoko Belnades

2017: born Soma Cruz and Mina Hakuba

2035: Castlevania Aria of Sorrow

2036: Castlevania Dawn of Sorrow

2037: Akumajō Dracula: Kabuchi in Tsuisoukyoku

10000: Castlevania Judgement (Aeon)

11797: Kid Dracula --Fernando F.L Fernandes


 * You should take a look at this too: Year of birth of the characters ;) -Chernabogue (talk) 07:52, December 30, 2012 (UTC)


 * I who created this page (in the season I had not registered with me my real name but yes I did) --Fernando F.L Fernandes

Post-2007 timelines
The last timelines I know are the pre-order Portrait of Ruin timeline, and the updated timeline from the offical website (2007). I wonder if there are anymore? --Nagumo baby (talk) 10:01, May 8, 2013 (UTC)

Although I asked my friend's Akumajo Dracula fan team all members, Nobody knew it.--Kiyuhito (talk) 12:22, May 8, 2013 (UTC)

Encylopedia of Castlevania
I noticed a footnote at the bottom of the page of the second part. It mentions the MSX, Arcade, SFC, X68000, and PS versions of Akumajo Dracula. What does it say? --Nagumo baby (talk) 13:56, June 7, 2013 (UTC)

Transcript ＊「悪魔城ドラキュラ」には、アーケード、FC、FCディスクシステム、SFC、MSX2、X68000、そしてPS版の7種類が存在する. There are seven kinds of Akumajo Dracula. Arcade, FC, FDS, SFC, MSX2, X68000 and PS version.--Kiyuhito (talk) 01:47, June 9, 2013 (UTC)

Dracula novel.
I personally disagree that Bram Stoker's Dracula is part of the continuity. The work itself is never mentioned in any of the chronologies. Also, it should be noted that the story takes place around 1893 and the event in the CV timeline takes place in 1897 (the publishing date of the novel). --Nagumo baby (talk) 19:06, September 5, 2013 (UTC)

Hideyuki Kikuchi says He says it is not clear although it is probably 1897.--Kiyuhito (talk) 09:40, September 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * ストーカーは何を考えていたのか、原典には年号の表示がない. これも原典の謎のひとつで、引用される新聞の発行年代や何やから割り出して、大体、1897年「吸血鬼ドラキュラ」刊行の年と考えられている. つまり、まだはっきりしないのだ. オランダからロンドンまで、一日もかけずにヘルシングがやって来られるのも不可能としか思えないし、日にちの表示も実は一日重複している.
 * There is no display of name of an era in the original text about what the stalker considered. the issue age of the newspaper in which this is also quoted by one of the mysteries of the original text -- what fellows rate appearance is carried out and it is generally considered the year of the 1897 "vampire Dracula" publication. That is, it does not clarify yet. It can also regard only as the impossible that Hellsing can come without applying from the Netherlands to London for one day, and, in fact, the display of a date will also overlap for one day.

Really? I must have misremembered. However, since the work itself is never mentioned, I'll remove it for now. --Nagumo baby (talk) 18:58, September 6, 2013 (UTC)

Novel and radio drama.
I personally think these two are canon. --Nagumo baby (talk) 19:12, September 5, 2013 (UTC)

My theory on why Soma is the next Dark Lord
Gram, Dario and Dimitri all had three sepearate powers of Dracula, being born on the same day he died, but that leaves the information gap on why Soma is the new Dracula. Dario, having inheireted Dracula's rage (i.e. fire), was the least likely to really inheiret Dracula's full power due to the fact that he was consumed by his lust for power. Dimitri's power is one of copying and makes him a close second for inheireting Dracula's power; unfortunately his power was just a mere shadow of Soma's power of Dominance. Gram's power was the transportation and transformation, which made him first to inheireting Dracula's powers and the first to realise his potential as a Dark Lord candidate without any information or help on what his powers were. Soma Cruz could possibly be a decendant of Alucard and Maria from Symphony of the Night, and that through those means can handle the power of Dominance and truly become the next Dark Lord. This is just a basic outline that I've come up with, and if you have any suggestions about what I'm missing in my theory, inbox me, or add it to the page.

68.7.143.107 11:28, October 27, 2013 (UTC)